Thursday, 12 March 2026

Gods of Gor Chapter Twelve

 


Chapter Twelve: The Trading Post

 

“He says we’re close, Master. The trading post is maybe three or four pasangs further ahead. We can be there later today.” Mina had been translating for us again, speaking to a couple of fishermen that we had encountered on our journey up river. They regarded us warily at first, sensing that Tijani and Brinn were warriors, and successful ones at that, judging by the number of kajirae they owned. I had told Brinn to smile when he met natives, so as not to scare them, but after seeing what his forced smile looked like, I had told him just to go back to his usual ‘resting bitch’ expression.

 

“What’s a resting bitch?” asked Brinn. I had used the precise English words, rather than the clumsy Gorean versions. 

 

“It’s a lovely compliment, Master.” I offered him a warm smile, and he seemed pleased with that contrived explanation. 

 

Bea was just three or four pasangs away. 

 

I was gut scared at the prospect of reaching the end of our journey and encountering my sister, for the moment of truth was now an inescapable reality. While we still had a long journey ahead of us I could at least defer the moment of revelation when I would tell Bea who I was. I had thought that by the time I reached the trading post I would be ready; I would have steeled myself for whatever her reaction might be. But now I wasn’t so sure.

 

Brinn could sense my nerves – he could sense how on edge I was.

 

“Is something wrong. Emma? We will find your sister this afternoon.”

 

“Everything is wrong!” I paced about the river bank, my bare feet stamping footprints into the damp soil. “I’m terrified!”

 

“Why?”

 

“You know why.”

 

His blank stare proved he really didn’t know why. I folded my arms and chewed my lower lip. “She knew me… before… you understand?”

 

“I suppose it will be a surprise to see you like this,” remarked Brinn.

 

“A surprise? That’s something of an understatement. Hi Bea, guess what, I’m your little brother. Haven’t I lost weight! Shall we go shopping together?” I hated saying the word brother. I was so acclimatised now to my feminine sex, and it was rare for me to think of myself in any other way. I hated who I used to be. I didn’t like to be reminded, and now everything conspired to remind me.

 

“You must have considered this before we set out,” said Brinn.

 

“Well, yes, but… I was only thinking about saving Bea. And the moment of reckoning was so far away. It… didn’t feel real. Now it does. I don’t know how I’m going to cope with this. Bea’s reaction… I don’t think she’s going to accept this well.”

 

“I don’t know the woman,” remarked Brinn, “and if I am being honest, Emma, her feelings don’t concern me much. I am simply saving her, as I promised you I would. If meeting her is going to be difficult, you can choose not to tell her who you are.”

 

“I know. Don’t think I haven’t considered it.” I paced about the river bank some more. Mina was still talking with the fishermen, translating now for Tijani. “It would be so much easier for her to think I’m just a kajira. Oh, Brinn. I hate this. I hate not knowing what to do.”

 

“The choice is yours. It doesn’t matter to me whether she knows who you were or not. I will conduct her to the safety of the Sardar regardless. But you don’t have long now to decide.”

 

“This is so hard for me. I’m a girl, Brinn. Bea doesn’t understand that. I’m really a girl. In my head I’ve always been. I know that.”

 

Brinn is really not the best person to consult on complex emotional problems. He just stands there and shrugs and tells you it’s nothing to do with him. Or, if you’re a man he offers you some paga and tells you paga solves most problems. And so I went for a walk while Mina showed off her skill with the local language. She was becoming more and more useful as far as the men were concerned. Not only could she communicate with the indigenous tribes, but she knew the name and property of every single bit of flora, she knew where to find animals for hunting, and she knew the customs of the people we encountered. I didn’t resent any of this, but I was beginning to feel useless here. Chloe of course was First Girl, and that was a skill in itself. Saffron was turning into a complete slut, the way she shook her ass in front of the menall the fucking time, which left me as the supposedly ‘favourite slave’ of Brinn, but in reality I was beginning to feel very unwanted. Whenever I looked for reassurance, Brinn reminded me that I was the mother of his children. I was afraid he was beginning to see me as just that – a mother who would raise Jacinta and Marik, leaving him free to enjoy himself with other slaves in his pens. He was spending quite a lot of time with the others. Okay, so Chloe I could understand. She was his First Girl. You’d expect a man to fuck his First Girl. I didn’t have to like it, but I could understand it. But he seemed far too happy indulging a hands on approach with Mina and Saffron, neither of whom did much to discourage him. I could feel the sense of growing paranoia again. And the more I threw myself at Brinn, hoping to distract him, the more I felt he considered it a distraction. I was the one initiating most of the sex this past week. When Brinn initiated sex, it seemed to be with other slaves. 

 

And this constant fear of what I was going to say when I met Bea made things worse. I felt sick just considering my options. I didn’t want her to know who I was. The fear gnawed at me. It was horrible. It wasn’t just that I was a girl – I was also a slave girl, and a pleasure slave come to that. She would have no respect for me, even if she did accept my body. Maybe Mina had been right. Maybe we should have run away into the rain forest and played at being Talunas – the wild panther girl like women who it was said lived in tribes deep in the rain forest. But as soon as I thought that, I knew I could never do anything that would mean I’d never see my children again.

 

Chloe gave me some perspective when I joined her by the canoe.

 

“Something’s wrong,” said Chloe as she looked at me. It wasn’t a question, rather a statement. 

 

“I don’t know if I can face my sister. Brinn’s no help, and I’m terrified. How can I tell her? I’m a slave girl. I wear a collar. The things I’ve done would sicken her.”

 

Chloe held me for a while and let me sob on her shoulder. I felt like screaming, but knew it would only annoy the men.

 

“Have you considered that it’s very possible that your sister will be wearing a collar when we find her?” said Chloe. “She may have been enslaved by now. It’s very likely. In which case, she may now have a very different perspective on what you have had to do in the past. She may understand only too well.”

 

“That doesn’t make me feel any better. She’s my sister. I don’t want her to have gone through what I’ve gone through. I want her to be free, even if that means she’ll despise me for being a slave.”

 

“How can she despise you for that? You didn’t choose a collar, Emma.”

 

“No, but…” I wiped away some tears. “I’m not exactly frigid, am I?”

 

“Bea’s not a virgin is she? I mean, back on Earth?”

 

“I really don’t know.” I sniffed. “I suppose not. It’s unlikely. She’s older than me by a few years. She had boyfriends I knew about. I guess she slept with them. I never asked. You don’t ask things like that. Not of your sister. I can’t imagine she was a virgin still when she was taken to Gor.”

 

“So she’s not going to have the repressed mentality of a Gorean free woman. She’s going to have western values when it comes to sex.”

 

“Well,” I sniffed back some tears again. “I think I’m well off the scale on that point. She’ll think I’m a slut. She never liked girls like me back on Earth. The popular ones in short skirts that threw themselves at men at college. She’ll see how I move in front of men, how I behave. She’ll be angry that I’m like that. She’ll probably feel insulted, like, I’m somehow demeaning women by acting in some stereotypical fashion that she hates.”

 

“Or she may be in a collar and serving men every night in the trading post. We won’t know until we get there.”

 

“So I’m supposed to hope that my sister has been through hell, just so she’ll accept me!” I said, angrily.

 

“You know I didn’t say that. I’m just preparing you for what you may find. I don’t know what else to tell you, Emma. I don’t know Bea. Were you close?”

 

“Very close.” I couldn’t stop crying. “I used to spend so much time with her, and I loved being in her bedroom. It was so grown up and feminine, compared to the one I shared with my brother. I loved all the things she had. I wanted to be like her. Her life seemed magical to me, with all the things I wanted for my own life. And I felt depressed that I couldn’t have those things. I hated who I was.”

 

Chloe nodded. 

 

“Our lives separated a bit when I was older and I went to university. But she’d visit often and we’d gossip together like…” I laughed softly, “sisters, I guess. I wanted that. I wanted to talk to her like her friends would talk to her. Like her girlfriends might.”

 

“Did she ever sense that?”

 

“I don’t think so. I hid it as best I could. Oh God, I feel so miserable. Either way this works out, it’s going to be bad. I wish I’d never been in Schendi.”

 

“You don’t have to tell her who you are, Emma.”

 

“Brinn said as much. He’s always so fucking practical. Emotion never comes into it.” I wiped my face again. “I really don’t know what I’m going to do when I meet her again.”

 

“You rarely do, Emma,” said Chloe as she stroked my forehead. “But you tend to do okay, regardless.”

 

“Can I just ask the ground to open up and swallow me whole?”

 

We rested for half an hour, and then Tijani called us all back to the canoe where we took up our paddles again.

 

Saffron was giggling at something Brinn had said and so I frowned at her, not that she paid the blind bit of attention to me. Wasn’t I supposed to be scary once? Why were kajirae no longer afraid of annoying me?

 

“Paddle time, Saffron,” I called out to her.

 

“In a moment, Emma,” she called back as she stood before Brinn in a way that accentuated the curve of her hips. He grinned at her and stroked her left hip, whispering something into her ear. And then as I watched, Brinn led Saffron away into the tree line!

 

“Don’t!” said Chloe in a soft but firm voice, as she held my left wrist to stop me running at Saffron. “It doesn’t mean anything.”

 

“I’m going to kill that filthy skank! Can’t she go a single day without being fucked by someone!”

 

“That’s what you said about Mina a few days ago, back when Saffron was your new best friend.”

 

“Well, I’m going to kill them both. Don’t you ever get jealous?” I turned to face Chloe.

 

“Not of Brinn, no. My natural master isn’t my actual Master, so I try not to form attachments with any one man.”

 

“Geralt?” I said. She had mentioned his name several times before.

 

“He makes me hot. But I don’t wear his collar. And he isn’t here.” She shrugged. 

 

“And if you did wear his collar, and Saffron was all over him like a rash?”

 

“She wouldn’t do that,” said Chloe, sweetly. “I’m First Girl.”

 

“See how well that works out when Brinn appoints another one, one day.” I realised how that must sound as soon as I said it. “Chloe, I’m sorry, that’s not what I meant.”

 

“Just get in the canoe, Emma.”

 

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The trading post was built on and around a large wooden jetty that was supported by thick logs sunk deep into the river bed. It provided a natural berth for barges and could support up to three barges tethered along its length. There was only one barge in sight as we paddled into view, but there were also a number of long dugout canoes tethered to iron hooks on the side of the jetty. 

 

There were three main buildings that I could see, two of which were connected by a high walkway. The smaller of these two buildings was obviously the administration area that was open to traders. It sat to the land side of the jetty and seemed welcoming. The second, larger structure was set some distance behind it, towards the tree line, and it looked secure, with no ground floor windows that I could see, and only narrow windows on the first and second floors. The walkway connected the highest floor, and the sides of the walkway were high enough to provide cover if a man stooped down. 

 

The third building was set further along the river bank, with large barn doors that were currently open. I suspected this was where business was conducted and trade goods were unloaded and inspected, only to be later conveyed to the fortified structure close to the tree line. All the construction was built from wood, of which there was an abundant natural source. The wood was stained to preserve it in the damp equatorial heat. As we neared, I could smell scented smoke designed to repel mosquitoes and other irritant insects. It would be branches and leaves of the same plants we used, under Mina’s instructions, to create oil that we smeared on our skin to gain the same protection. 

 

The barge tethered to the jetty was piled high with fruit and timber and sacks containing other trade goods. Three men sat on the barge in whatever shade they could find. There was a brightly striped awning that provided some protection from the mid-afternoon sun. As is often the case in the jungle interior, we saw little sign of any strenuous work being done. A couple of male slaves, identifiable by their ugly iron collars, rested with a water jug close to the wall of the first building. They looked restless and miserable, as male slaves often do. Both of them were big men, even by Gorean standards, and they had obviously been bought for their brute strength alone. 

 

A couple of other men were easily identified as being of the trading post staff as they wore short tunics in the colours of the caste of slavers. One of them was talking to a man from the barge, while the other gazed out down river towards our canoe, judging who we might be and whether we were likely to stop at the jetty. 

 

I also saw a large striped awning that seemed to be a permanent feature of the trading post. It was erected on the river bank, along the stretch of jetty that would be reached first from the direction of Schendi, from which we were rowing. A coffle of black slave girls knelt, gossiping together, sat in the shade there, their left ankles chained together. They were all naked except for their simple trade collars and they were obviously on display. In all likelihood they would have been traded to the slavers by tribes in the interior, who in turn would have seized the women from raids on other villages. Few slavers in the area of Schendi have the military resources that might allow them to conduct raiding missions of their own. Instead it was far simpler to encourage the indigenous tribes to wage war on one another – something they were happy to do anyway – and then purchase the captives at a cheap price. From what little I knew, the mark up price for the slaves could be as high as 800% once they were unloaded in Schendi. 

 

I leaned back into Brinn’s body as Tijani announced we could cease paddling for the moment. 

 

“Master, may I ask something?”

 

“Yes.”

 

“I beg clothing.” I nibbled my lower lip. “Something more than the cloth around my hips. Just for when I speak to my sister.”

 

Brinn was silent for a moment. “We don’t carry slave tunics in our luggage. There’s no need for them in this climate. We gave the only one we had to Lady Taleisha.”

 

“You have some spare tunics.” I meant the ones he wore.

 

“You want to wear one of my tunics? A red tunic?”

 

“Please. My breasts are bare. I don’t want Bea’s first sight of me to be like this.”

 

“I cannot let a slave wear the scarlet of a warrior. I would not even permit it of a free woman. It would shame the cloth of my caste.”

 

“I ask so little of you, Brinn. And I have done so much for you. Please.” 

 

“I would give you a slave tunic if we had one, Emma. Truly, I would. But I cannot dishonour my caste colours. It is a matter of honour. You do not understand. You are a woman.”

 

“I have fought for you before. Isn’t that what warriors do?”

 

“Taking part in a fight does not make you a warrior. Besides, women are not given caste membership. They may be affiliated through birth, but they can never wear the scarlet.”

 

“Please. Please.”

 

“I have spoken. My words are final.”

 

I turned away because I didn’t want him to see the bitter tears welling in my eyes. The customs of his caste meant more to him than any debt he might feel towards me. That is how little I truly meant to him. He wouldn’t even give me a piece of red cloth when I needed it the most. 

 

“Emma, I understand you are upset.”

 

I flinched when he touched my shoulder. I was no longer leaning in to him. I had asked so very little of him. 

 

“Do not sulk. It is not an appealing trait in a woman. I told you I would have granted your request if we had other garments in our baggage. That is very reasonable of me.”

 

I clenched my fists where I sat with my back to him.

 

And then he turned me round to face him. “Very well. If you insist, I will remind you who is master here. I am not going to put up with these displays of yours, Emma.” He undid the slip knot that held the small piece of colourful cloth around my hips and removed it, stripping me naked. “You may beg the return of your garment tonight, if you wish, or you can remain naked when we sail back to Schendi.” He folded the length of cloth and placed it in one of our waterproof sacks. 

 

And so I was left naked as I stepped from the canoe onto the wooden boards of the jetty. To their credit, the other kajirae looked sympathetic and there was no teasing, even though the loss of a garment is usually seen as a reduction in status within a coffle. I suppose the other girls understood that the same thing might befall them if they stepped out of line. Mina and Saffron both hugged me and Mina told me to be brave.

 

“You can do this, Emma. It’s just a piece of cloth.” 

 

But I felt wretched. And then, Mina did something astonishing. She undid the knot on her own skirt garment and removed it, leaving herself naked. She walked to a surprised Tijani and handed the folded cloth to him in support of me. 

 

“What is this, Mina?” said Tijani.

 

“I will share Emma’s punishment.”

 

“You don’t get to choose when you wear a garment, Mina.”

 

But Mina stood there, defiant, not saying anything. “You are my kajira. If I wish you naked, I will say so.” Tijani handed the cloth back to the girl. “Dress yourself.” There was a hint of menace in his voice. Tijani did not approve of this open display of support. Who knows? Maybe we’d end up forming a kajira union and petition for a bill of human rights.

 

“It is not fair, Master,” said Mina.

 

“This is your last warning, Mina.”

 

Mina wrapped the cloth about her hips again and tied it with a slip knot. She looked angry, but didn’t direct that anger at her master. 

 

“Thank you,” I said in a low voice. “It means a lot.” I kissed her softly on the cheek and ruffled her hair.

 

“Are you here to trade?” The man who spoke called out to us as we approached the jetty. We paddled slowly, steering the canoe into position as Tijani threw a mooring rope to the black slaver who caught it and tied it securely around a wooden pylon. 

 

“We have business here,” said Brinn as he rose to his feet, with a slight wobble of the canoe. “We are looking for a Lady Beatrice.”

 

“Then you have come to the right place,” said the black slaver. He gazed at the kajirae in the canoe as he sad that, no doubt speculating on our block prices as slavers automatically do. “Are these kajirae for sale?”

 

“No,” said Brinn. “They are not.” He climbed up onto the jetty – already in a bad mood because of the argument with me - and then waited as Tijani secured the other side of the canoe so it didn’t drift in the current. “Where is this Lady Beatrice?”

 

“In her room,” said the slaver with a smile. “The mid afternoon heat is too much for a free woman, and we prefer her not to walk around the compound.”

 

“I see.” Brinn regarded the buildings, particularly the secure one to the rear. 

 

“I notice one of your kajirae lacks a brand and collar,” said the slaver as he gazed at the Lady Taleisha.

 

“I am not a kajira!” she snarled, as she crouched low in the canoe. She looked very kajira-like in her single garment – the brief slave tunic that had been given to her. 

 

“This is the gracious Lady Taleisha,” said Tijani with a grin as he spanked her ass once, eliciting a loud cry from the woman. “She has taken passage with us for a time and is enjoying the comfort and charms of the voyage.”

 

“Do not touch me!” She turned to face Tijani and nearly fell over the side as the canoe wobbled alarmingly in the water. Only Tijani’s quick hand saved her when he grasped her right wrist and secured her position. 

 

“Careful, Lady. You nearly went in the water again.”

 

“She lacks the concealing sarong that Free Women typically wear,” remarked the slaver.

 

“Indeed she does,” said Tijani. “I noticed that too.”

 

“You are all beasts!” she cried as she struggled to free her wrist. Only when she finally gave up did Tijani release her. There was another shriek as Tijani then lifted her up and deposited her onto the jetty where she tried to stand with some semblance of dignity, despite her scandalous tunic-clade body. 

 

Tijani motioned that we could leave the canoe, which we did, securing our paddles first and then climbing up onto the warm jetty. I stretched my limbs for the first time in hours and waited until the familiar wobbling sensation left me from suddenly standing on a surface that wasn’t moving. I was the only girl here who was completely naked, and that marked me out to the black slavers as either the lowest girl in the coffle, or one who was under discipline for misbehaving. Chloe indicated we should all kneel in a line while the men spoke to the slavers. Unlike the natives we had encountered over the last few days, the slavers were of course very fluent in common Gorean. 

 

“Lady Beatrice is in charge here?” enquired Brinn.

 

The question brought a smile to the lips of the slaver. “In a sense. But this is a remote station, Captain. The Lady Beatrice wisely chooses to acquiesce to our advice and recommendations on many matters.”

 

“Such as?”

 

“Well, where would I begin,” said the man with a chuckle. His teeth were very white.  

 

“So, she isn’t in charge here?” pressed Brinn.

 

“She is a free woman, alone with men, in a remote trading post. Draw your own conclusions.”

 

“Well, I have come here to speak to her.”

 

“What about?” 

 

“That is between me and the Lady Beatrice,” said Brinn. I could tell from the furrow on his brow that he was growing impatient with the conversation.

 

“The Lady works during the afternoon, and should not be disturbed. You may deal with me instead.”

 

Before Brinn might say anything ‘tetchy’, or indeed put a hand on the hilt of his sword, Tijani stepped forward with that charming smile of his. “It’s been quite the voyage getting here,” he remarked. “My name is Tijani, and this is my friend, Brinn. Forgive him, he has been in direct sunlight all day and is grumpy.”  

 

“I am Ambiko.” The man nodded. 

 

“I do understand the Lady is busy, and of course any business matter would ordinarily be run past men such as yourself, first of all, but this is something of a personal matter, involving the Lady’s family. As a courtesy to her reputation, I am sensitive to conveying the matter in person.”

 

“Her reputation is in tatters,” remarked Ambiko. “Between you and me she shamed herself greatly in Schendi, which is why she was banished to this forlorn place.” He grinned at the recollection of the story. “She was found naked, chained to a slave ring at our house in the port, after having given herself freely of her own will for use by a foreign man in the city.”

 

“Disgraceful!” remarked Tijani. “Outrageous!”

 

Ambiko nodded. “She was whipped of course. It was only because Mkufu had treated her like a daughter until now that she escaped the collar. Mkufu was heartbroken at her shame and could not look at her again. She will not return to Schendi.”

 

“But of course!” agreed Tijani. “I understand now. I see why you have no respect for her.”

 

“She is confined to her rooms, and is expected to behave herself when speaking to us. When she is permitted to speak to us, she does so on her knees, with her head bowed. She has no say in the important decisions relating to this trading post.”

 

“And yet she is technically in charge?”

 

“Schendi is a long way away. She will never see Mkufu again. Once a month she writes a letter to Mkufu, directed by us, offering a pleasing account of her life here.”

 

“Have you touched her?” said Brinn, suddenly, without warning. 

 

“Not yet,” said Ambiko. “But she is not permitted face veiling, and we have instructed her to reduce the length of her gown to mid-calf so that we can view a little of her legs. It pleases us to see the girl’s ankles as she goes about her rooms barefoot.” 

 

“Enough of this,” snarled Brinn. He stepped forward and loomed over Ambiko, who was maybe three inches shorter than Brinn. “I want to see Lady Beatrice.”

 

“You don’t give orders around here,” said Ambiko. He squared up, not taking his eyes away from Brinn’s. Close by, a few of his men detached themselves from where they had been leaning against the walls of outbuildings, watching us. They picked up their spears, but seeing a gesture from Ambiko they didn’t approach. 

 

“Actually, I do,” snarled Brinn. “That was originally a polite request. Now it’s a demand. Have a care how you speak to me.”

 

I counted five armed men in the area, and Brinn was still nursing his arrow wound. 

 

“Or what?” said Ambiko, as his men now took a couple of steps forward, readying their spears. 

 

48 comments:

  1. Let’s hope that Tijani the smooth-talker can de-fuse the conflict. I wonder if an exchange of Free Women might be in the offing, Taleisha stays at the trading post and Beatrice travels onwards in the canoe?

    —jonnieo

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    1. jonnieo:

      (1) As Tracker pointed out in his comment to Chapter Eleven, the party’s travel is back to Schendi. You should have said “… Beatrice back in the canoe.”

      (2) Even if Tijani defuses the current conflict, Brinn promised to conduct Lady Beatrice safely back to Sardar. Ambiko will not, without a fight, let Lady Beatrice report to Mkufu what Ambiko has done.

      vyeh

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    2. … Beatrice travels back in the canoe.”

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  2. Emma:

    (1) Wow! Two chapters of Gods in two days! The initial picture, of Brinn and Ambiko arguing with clenched fists in front of the trading posts, is striking. It looks like it will come to swords. The title, “The Trading Post,” is very satisfying. We’ll find out what happened to Bea. I love the “‘resting bitch’” expression. Google AI says it was popularized around 2013, so you would have been familiar with it before you left Earth in 2016.

    (2) You telling Brinn “annoyed, angry and contemptuous” is a “lovely compliment” when Brinn asked the meaning of ‘resting bitch’ is hilarious. Your being “gut scared” at revealing to your sister Bea your transformation is interesting. For an Earthling, the transformation from Eric to the beautiful Lady Felice, Mistress of Gor, through Kurii science, is shameful. For a Gorean, the transformation from Lady Felice to kajira would be shameful.

    (3) The conversation between you and Brinn illustrates your antipathy toward your previous gender. “I’m really a girl. In my head, I’ve always been,” would fit in so well in Fictionmania, where you published Mistress, Harem Girl, Panther Girl, Shadows and Ubara. Brinn’s attitude toward “complex emotional problems” is true to character.

    (4) Thirteenth paragraph after the “Read more >” break (“Brinn is really …”), ninth sentence: “Saffron was turning … of the menall the fucking …” —> … of the men all the fucking …

    (5) The kajirae dynamics is fascinating. Mina is very useful as native translator and guide. Chloe is First Girl. Saffron has discovered sex after three years as a virgin Free Companion. Brinn initiates sex with every other kajira but you, relegating you to the mother of his children, giving you the perspective of a Free Companion. Your fear of Bea’s reaction to you being a pleasure slave adds to the tension.

    (6) Your attachment to your children is very touching. Chloe’s discussion of Bea’s Earth virginity is nice. Of course, after Simon in Chapter Nine of Ubara, Bea isn’t a virgin. This discussion is a reminder Chloe is also an Earth transgender woman. Bea’s attitude toward sluts on Earth adds more tension. The backstory of you and Bea, with you hiding your transgender identity, is fascinating.

    (7) It’s great that the other kajira are no longer scared of you. Brinn taking Saffron into the woods, Chloe restraining you and you threatening to kill both Saffron and Mina is hilarious. Chloe’s “I’m First Girl,” and your rejoinder is nice. The descriptions of the trading post, the barge, the men and the black slave girls are excellent. Your conversation with Brinn for something to cover your breasts is intriguing. Only one slave tunic?!

    (8) Mina’s support is a surprise. The fact that the black slaver recognized “Lady Beatrice” means she is still free. Finally, Lady Taleisha enters the chapter. Fortunately, Tijani intervenes before Brinn gets into a fight with Ambiko, the black slaver. Ambiko gives a very nice summation of Chapter Nine of Ubara and its aftermath. Brinn reacts by demanding to see Lady Beatrice, leading to the confrontation in the initial picture.

    (9) This is an excellent chapter ending in the cliffhanger jonnieo mentioned in his comment to Chapter Eleven. I originally read the original trilogy and their comments on Fictionmania. The transgender elements in this chapter, better than those in the original trilogy, are fascinating. With Bea reduced to a free captive, she will be more sympathetic to you. How will Tijani get Brinn out of this mess?

    vyeh

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  3. Pipa:

    (1) Continued from 08/03/2026 comment to Chapter Thirteen of Rebecca Palmer posted March 6.

    (2) In Swordsmen of Gor (#29, 2010), Tarl Cabot specifically says he doesn't want Talena, “I would not now buy her, even as a pot girl for my kitchens in Port Kar (p. 483).” Yet he changes his mind about going to World's End after seeing a medallion on a contract woman, “The pendant had been the medallion of the Ubara of Ar (p. 527).”

    (3) There is a discrepancy between Warriors of Gor (#37, 2022), where Pa-Kur said Targo forgot to administer slave wine to Lara, Tatrix of Tharna, after her branding (pp. 367 - 368) and Outlaw of Gor (#2, 1967), where Tarl saves Lara from being branded (p. 157) and then uses her after she begs him (p. 171). Of course, a 90 year old author might forget the details written 35 books and 55 years ago, but this suggests a different author very familiar with the first book, but not subsequent books.

    (4) My strongest argument for different authors for #35 - 38 (2019 - 2024) is that there is a pedantic tone in the earlier books that I've read, not surprising from an academic, that is missing in the last four books.

    (5) As a side note, John Norman's description of Tharna, a gynocracy, in Outlaw is very misogynistic.

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    1. Pipa:

      (1) Tarnsman of Gor (#1, 1966), Outlaw of Gor (#2, 1967), Priest-Kings of Gor (#3, 1968), Nomads of Gor (#4, 1969), Assassin (#5, 1970) and Raiders of Gor (#6, 1971), the original Tarl Cabot POV, have a level of detail, e.g. a paragraph describing the goods shipped across the Thassa, that is missing from Avengers of Gor (#36, 2021) and Warriors of Gor (#37, 2022), the most recent Tarl Cabot POV.

      (2) The change in Tarl Cabot's and Telima's behavior toward each other in Raiders is adequately explained by external events, e.g. Midice's betrayal, while the dramatic change in his behavior toward Talena in Warriors seems to be he finally got fed up with her consistent ingratitude.

      (3) The original six books contain a depth missing from the final two Tarl Cabot POV books. This supports your conjecture that a collaborator was involved in the most recent books.

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    2. Pipa:

      (1) It took me five days — I kept browsing Literotica to escape the tedium — to finish Captive of Gor (#7, 1972). It was very reminiscent of Plunder of Gor (#34, 2016) with the narrator very whiny and repetitive. Clearly, Captive and Plunder were written by the same author.

      (2) In contrast, Treasure of Gor (#38, 2024) was easy to read. The narrator noted in the first 100 pages she had been broken and then went through a series of adventures rather than innumerable introspection.

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    3. Pipa:

      (1) It only took one day to read Hunters of Gor (#8, 1974). The repeated introspection in the beginning by Tarl Cabot about how he would rise to the top of Gor with Talena’s as his Free Companion bored me in the same way as Elinor Briton’s repeated introspection that she would manipulate a Gorean man to get a cushy life.

      (2) On the internet is “A re-imagining of a femdom scene from Raiders of Gor — with some embellishments” (https://alt.books.gor.narkive.com/oTer7QhC/a-re-imagining-of-a-femdom-scene-from-raiders-of-gor-with-some-embellishments). In Hunters, there is another intense femdom scene when Cabot is captured by Verna. Perhaps “misogynistic” is not the right term to apply to John Norman.

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    4. Pipa:

      (1) Another day to read Marauders of Gor (#9, 1975). Like Hunters (#8), Tarl Cabot has a lot of sex. Marauders includes public sex either in the halls or ships of Torvaldland.

      (2) There is a character arc in books 1 - 6, 8 and 9 (#7 only involves Tarl Cabot) peripherally) where her goes from idealistic to self-centered to appreciating the world around him.

      (3) At the end of Marauders, Tarl Cabot is unhappy with the way Talena treated him at the end of Hunters (#8) and thinks about abducting her from Ar and enslaving her (pp. 310 - 311, Kindle edition).

      (4) The first half of Warriors (#37, 2022) completely ignores the character arc of the first 9 books. While a 90 year old author might forget details from 47 years and 28 books ago, he should have a general idea of his primary character. This leads to the conclusion that a different author, who closely read Tarnsman (#1), but not Marauders, wrote Warriors.

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    5. (1) … Torvaldsland.

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    6. Pipa:

      (1) In Tribesmen of Gor (#10, 1976), Vella mocks Tarl Cabot at the beginning of the death march to the salt mine of Klima. In the end, he is totally Gorean. He punishes her, rebrands her and treats her as a common slave.

      (2) Given Tarl Cabot’s subjugation of both Vella and Telima (in Marauders, #9, 1975), his treatment of Talena in the first half of Warriors (#37, 2022), where he acts like the recently arrived Earthman in Tarnsman (#1, 1966), is totally out of the character developed in books #6, 8-10, suggesting a different author for #37 than #1-10.

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    7. Pipa:

      (1) Slave Girl of Gor (#11, 1977) was very reminiscent of Plunder of Gor (#34, 2016), but very different from Quarry of Gor (#35, 2019) and Treasure of Gor (#38, 2024), all four slave girl point of view novels, leading to the conclusion that the authorship of the Gorean saga changed between 2016, when John Norman retired from academia, and 2019, the following book.

      (2) Slave Girl and Plunder wallow in the narrators’ slaveries, while Quarry and Treasure have more adventure. The only contribution to the Game of Worlds arc in Slave Girl is summarized in “Half-Ear Arrives.”

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    8. Pipa:

      (1) Beasts of Gor (#12, 1978), a totally Gorean Tarl Cabot POV book, features a lot of philosophical dialogue between him and a various newly enslaved women (Gorean Free Woman Constance, Earth woman brought involuntarily to Gor Audrey, two Earth women who were Kurii agents Arlene and Pepita), where the women are instant converts to the joy of Gorean slavery.

      (2) These dialogues, whether you love or hate them, are missing in Avengers of Gor (#36, 2021) and Warriors of Gor (#37, 2022), the most recent Tarl Cabot POV books, suggesting a different author for Avengers and Warriors than for Beasts.

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    9. Pipa:

      (1) Explorers of Gor (#13, 1979), a totally Gorean Tarl Cabot POV book, like the previous Beasts of Gor (#12, 1978), also features a lot of philosophical dialogue between him and various newly enslaved women (Gorean she-urt Sasi, Gorean taluna Lana, Earth woman brought involuntarily to Gor Alice, two Earth women who were Kurii agents Janice and Evelyn), where the women are instant (except Janice, where it is drawn out) converts to the joy of Gorean slavery.

      (2) Like Beasts (see point (2) in the comment above), these dialogues suggest a different author for Avengers and Warriors than for Explorers.

      (3) Beasts, an Arctic adventure, and Explorers, an equatorial adventure, both featuring Kurii, mark the end of Tarl Cabot’s transition from an Earth man in Tarnsman of Gor (#1, 1966), a seven year hiatus in New York City and Outlaw of Gor (#2, 1967) to a Gorean master.

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    10. Pipa:

      (1) Fighting Slave of Gor (#14, 1980), with the femdom scenario of an Earth man silk slave of a Gorean mistress, still had John Norman’s signature rantings of the naturalness of women being slaves of men. Even the slaver Lady Gina in Chapter 3 espoused the suitability of women being slaves and was in a later chapter disappointed when Jason didn’t rape his nemesis slave Lola in his cell.

      (2) These signature rants are missing in the last four books: Quarry of Gor (#35, 2019), Avengers of Gor (#36, 2021), Warriors of Gor (#37, 2022) and Treasure of Gor (#38, 2024), further evidence that the author of these books is not the same as the author of the first fourteen books.

      (3) While the chapters involving Jason’s training in the House of Andronicus dragged on, the world building of the fighting slaves and hatching tharlarion eggs was captivating. Emma in the March 2, 2021 post “Read-Along-A-Gor: ‘Fighting Slave of Gor’ by John Norman” says she has fond memories of the book and in a 03/03/2021 comment to that post says she is looking forward to the chapters where Lady Florence enters the narrative. I agree with both points.

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    11. Pipa:

      (1) Rogue of Gor (#15, 1981) had still more of John Norman’s signature rantings of the naturalness of women being slaves of men. More misogynistic was the character of Beverly. After Jason freed her, she was totally demanding, ungrateful and treacherous.

      (2) Jason, despite casually mastering and selling his former mistress Lady Florence into slavery at the end of Fighting Slave of Gor (#14, 1980) and accepting the slavery of Peggy, the Earth coat check girl in chapter one of Fighting Slave, kept flip flopping very irritatingly between a Gorean master and a feminist Earthman regarding Beverly. In contrast, Tarl Cabot, who evolved from a feminist Earthman to a Gorean master over an arc of ten books, was consistent within a book.

      (3) As I laid out in my 6 April 2026 comments to the 5 April 2026 post “A Mere Fleabite … Part 2 of 3 on Tracker’s website (StoriesByTracker DOT Blogspot DOT com), Donald A. Wollheim, the Ballantine editor, who commissioned the Gorean saga, required Tarl Cabot to follow the mode of John Carter, Edgar Rice Burroughs’ Barsoom hero, whose modus operandi was saving princesses from death and slavery.

      (4) Wollheim’s desire to cater to the appetite of the huge ERB audience for books in the style of Barsoom resulted in Tarl Cabot and many other characters — e.g. Marlenus freed 100 “exotics” (female slaves who were totally unaware of the male gender) in Assassins (#5) and Verna in Hunters (#8) — freeing slaves in each book.

      (5) Perhaps the only place John Norman, whose PhD dissertation foretold Gorean natural order, was able to express his views in Tarnsman of Gor (#1), was a brief scene — no philosophical digressions — in which Talena begged to be branded. Tarl Cabot’s response was to unlock her collar (to support a pretense of slavery) and say she would always be free.

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    12. Pipa:

      (1) Despite John Norman’s signature rantings of women being natural slaves, Guardsman of Gor (#16, 1981) was a quick read: (a) Explorers (#13) was 537 pages (Kindle edition), Fighting Slave (#14) 420, Rogue (#15) 328, Guardsman 360, Kur (#28) 775 and Treasure (#38) 707 and (b) Rogue ended in the middle of a naval battle.

      (2) The Kindle edition of the Jason Marshall trilogy, unlike the DAW mass market edition uses “rape” rather than “use,” including the oxymoronic, “I beg rape” by a slave girl. I suspect Donald A. Wollheim kept the word out to avoid antagonizing his ERB audience and John Norman put the word back in when he re-edit the books when Open Roads Integrated Media reissued it.

      (3) In Treasure, Mira the POV refers to being “red silked” shortly after being branded. This is another suggestion that the author of Treasure is different from the author of Guardsman.

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    13. Pipa:

      (1) Savages of Gor (#17, 1982) featured the Waniyanpi, or the Sames, a parody of gender equality, where the men wore dresses. According to Google AI, at this time, John Norman had a “no-edit” clause in his contract, where his manuscript was accepted as is. While a critique of current Earth culture might be interesting, a critique of a clearly fictional culture is not.

      (2) Lending credence to the Google AI’s “no-edit” hypothesis, new slaves of the red men had to lick clean a paw of a kaiila, which had mud, dirt and waste products. Clearly, a sizable portion of the ERB sword and planet audience would find that disgusting rather than arousing.

      (3) The world building, with the different tribes and the warrior societies was quite vivid. Both the disgusting aspects and the world building are missing from the last four books: Quarry (#35, 2019), Avengers (#36, 2021), Warriors (#37, 2022) and Treasure (#38, 2024), more evidence for a different author for the last four books.

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    14. Pipa:

      (1) Blood Brothers of Gor (#18, November 1982, 562 pp. Kindle edition) is the continuation of Savages (#17, March 1982, 365 pp. Kindle edition). Clearly Savages and Blood Brothers was one super long manuscript that was split. The only named woman character who was not a slave at the end was the wife of a chief who occurred briefly in each of the two books. At a guess, she represented over 95% of the female population of the Barrens.

      (2) The women of the Waniyanpi (“Sames”) introduced in Savages are even more of a doormat than Earth women brought to Gor. With the exception of Radish, the domineering woman leader, all the women are quick to strip and submit, as soon as they see Turnip transformed from a female Same to the ravishing slave Mira. And Radish confesses to dreams of being a slave.

      (3) Despite John Norman’s signature rantings, Blood Brothers was exciting because of two extensive battles, a la The Empire Strikes Back and the Return of the Jedi. It doesn’t hurt that Ubar of the Sky makes an appearance as a medicine tarn and Zarendargar (“Half-Ear”) appears during Tarl Cabot’s vision quest.

      (4) There is a lot of detailed description in Savages and Blood Brothers, two Tarl Cabot POV, missing in Avengers of Gor (#36, 2021) and Warriors of Gor (#37, 2022), the last two Tarl Cabot POV, suggesting the author of the latter two books is different from the author of the former two books.

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    15. Pipa:

      (1) Kur of Gor (#28, 2009) naturally followed Savages of Gor (#17, 1982) and Blood Brothers of Gor (#18, 1982) mentioning that Tarl Cabot aided Kur Zarendargar (“Half-Ear”) in those two books and summarizing the intervening books as Tarl Cabot staying away from Port Kar to avoid the Priest-Kings who were angry at him for aiding Half-Ear,

      (2) The first chapter, 10% of the voluminous 775 page (Kindle edition) book, was slow going with John Norman’s signature rant about gender roles despite being narrated by an unnamed Kur, who was surprisingly omniscient — why a Kur would be interested in the gender roles of humans is never addressed. By the end of the book, the Kur adopted female slavery.

      (3) Surprising, of the two beautiful naked women stuck in the Priest-Kings 4’ diameter cylindrical cell with Tarl at the beginning of the book, one of them, Lady Bina, was free at the end of the book (and in Conspirators of Gor, #31, and Plunder of Gor, #34), despite committing treason against Tarl’s group. Despite this anomaly, John Norman is clearly the author of this book and probably not the author of the last four books, #35 - #38.

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    16. Hello vyeh,

      I have been quiet recently, but I want to assure you that I am following your survey of the Gorean Cycle with considerable interest. I first read the JN novels long ago, in the days before they disappeared from the shelves of retail booksellers. In 2022 I came down with covid, which provided an opportunity to rediscover the earlier tales and then delve into the new ones.

      I almost didn't make the effort, because the book that marked the series' return is - in my opinion - a train wreck. Witness of Gor is presented in an asynchronous fashion that renders it nearly unreadable. Professor Norman is not sufficiently skilled a writer to carry off flashbacks and the like with any prospect of success.

      So when your journey brings you to Book 26, I recommend reading its chapters in the following order: 2, 4, 6, 8-40, then 1, 3, 5, 7, and finally, 41-46. Covid was not fun, and reading Witness in its published form didn't improve the experience in any way.

      :-)

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    17. Pipa, vyeh. I have followed your discussion with interest. I found Witness almost impossible to read, and impossible to follow. If I try it again, I will go by Pipa's reading order. I am not as quick a reader as vyeh so it may take me some time to finish the three Gor books i am currently reading.

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    18. Pipa:

      (1) I appreciate your response! To be honest, Emma’s absence has been an inspiration to read the material that originally inspired her. I started with the last book, Treasure (#38), based on your recommendation that the books published in the 2020s, Avengers (2021), Warriors (2022) and Treasure (2024) looked like there was a collaborator. I added to that list Quarry (2019).

      (2) When I read Warriors, it struck me that it was a reunion of the very first book, Tarnsman. Since I had picked up a copy of Tarnsman when it was priced at 1.99 or 2.99, I read Tarnsman and was struck at how anti-slavery Tarl Cabot was.

      (3) The only scene in a very fast paced book suggesting John Norman’s later views was a brief scene where Talena, pretending to be Tarl’s slave, dances for him in dancing silks and begs to be branded, said scene being quickly terminated by Tarl being knocked out just after he avows she will always be free.

      (4) I think I had read the first six or seven books together and then through Plunder (#34), I had religiously read each book as it came out. So after reading Quarry, I reread Plunder and rediscovered the signature rants. Frankly Phyllis’ repeated envy of Paula was nauseating and convinced me that the last four books had to be written by someone else.

      (5) In researching John Norman’s publications under his pen name and his real name, I was struck by the lack of publications before Tarnsman and a couple of academic books published a few years before Plunder. I discovered he retired as a professor just before Plunder, when he would have been in his mid 80s, suggesting declining mental faculties.

      (6) Continuing to read in reverse chronological order, I stopped at Swordsmen (#29) and started reading in chronological order beginning at Outlaw (#2), because I wanted to wait until Kur (#28) came down in price from 19.99. I discovered the anti-slavery bias in the first eight books. Lots of slaves were freed and not just by Tarl. Even in Captive (#7), a slave girl POV, Elinor persuades Rask, the ubermaster, to free Ute.

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      (7) I discovered Donald A. Wollheim, who later founded DAW books (more at StoriesByTracker DOT Blogspot DOT com, comment to “A Mere Fleabite … Part 2 of 3” posted April 5, 2026), had created a huge demand for stories in the style of Edgar Rice Burroughs’ “A Princess of Mars,” by publishing unauthorized editions of the Barsoom series, but couldn’t use the trademarked Barsoom or John Carter.

      (8) Enter Tarnsman, which literally creates a new world to replace the Martian Barsoom, Tarl Cabot to replace John Carter, Talena, daughter of an Ubar, to replace Princess Dejah Thoris, the spider people and Torm’s translators for 4 non human species to replace Barsoom’s 6 races/species. John Carter returned to Earth for ten years before the second book, “Gods of Mars.” Tarl Cabot returned to Earth for seven years before Outlaw of Gor.

      (9) John Carter famously rescued princesses from execution or inter-species slavery. (Despite ERB’s Tarzan not being emasculated by society, he marries Jane in the second Tarzan book.) Tarl Cabot rescues Tatrix Lara from slavery in book 2, bandit princess Vika in book 3, Dina and Vella (twice) in book 4, Vella in book 5, the rence people and Luma in book 6 and Vinca, a couple of other paga slaves, Sheeri and Rissia in book 8.

      (10) Since John Norman’s PhD thesis contained the seeds of the Gorean “natural order,” presumably Wollheim initially moderated John Norman’s views, leaving John Norman to express his views through the actions of female characters Talena, Lara, Vika, Vella and Telima.

      (11) Betsy Wollheim, who took over day-to-day operations of DAW in 1985, rejected Witness despite contractual obligations and took credit for killing the Gor series. Maybe Witness offended her in multiple ways. I find the slave girl POV books hard to start. In the middle of the first chapter of Kajira (#19), I jumped to the first chapter of Players (#20) and found it a lot easier to read.

      (12) John Norman’s skills are world building and writing adventure, which are the two qualities Wollheim needed. His idea of erotica is “***”. Strangely enough, his femdom scenes are interesting. Grendel’s defense of Lady Bina in Kur (#28), Conspirators (#31) and Plunder (#34) makes him the true successor of John Carter on Gor.

      (13) I’ll be sure to follow your advice reading Witness. Your advice on reading Treasure, Warrior and Avengers was good.

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    20. Pipa:

      (1) Kajira of Gor (#19, 1983) wallowed in slavery despite the fact Tiffany Collins, the POV, began the book fantasizing about slavery thinking she was the Tatrix of Corcyrus. A Tarl Cabot POV book is an adventure book interspersed with John Norman’s rantings about gender roles. This book was John Norman’s rantings interspersed with adventure.

      (2) While Mira, the POV in Treasure of Gor (#38, 2024), experienced farm and paga slaveries, there wasn’t the signature rantings and there was a lot more adventure. While the first chapter of Players of Gor (#20, 1984), a Tarl Cabot POV, featured the degradation of Lady Rowena, it didn’t have the tedious and repetitive “I am a natural slave” internal colloquy of Kajira.

      (3) This colloquy, missing in Treasure, suggests a different writer for the last slave girl POV book, and is probably part of the reason Betsy Wollheim cancelled the Gorean series in 1988.

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    21. Pipa:

      (1) Players of Gor (#20, 1984) was a quick read for a variety of reasons: the introduction of Boots Tarsk-Bit and his farces — all so fascinating Emma has borrowed them for her own writing; Tarl Cabot getting captured 3 times, a couple of times by the beauteous Lady Yanina, including a stint as a “silk servant”; a lot of Kaissa including Scormus of Ar incognito in Boots’ troupe; and a “gentleman” Kur — he cooks his human food.

      (2) Although there were plenty of free women reduced to slavery and inevitably loving their bondage, there was plenty of action: an assassination attempt on Tarl, Tarl rescuing Boots and troupe from seven brigands, Scormus devastating a mid level Kaissa player, Kur fighting sleen, Kur and sleen fighting soldiers, Tarl escaping three times and the urt people.

      (3) Players had some of the flavor of Tarnsman (#1, 1967) and Warriors (#37, 2022). Tarl did not enslave Lady Yanina after his first escape, leaving her chained naked under a table, nor when she came into his power as a free captive. Although he had some one night stands, his only long-term relationship was with Lady Yanina, first as her silk servant, then as her captor with use rights and finally mastering her when she was enslaved by her Ubar. So I can’t say Warriors was written by a different writer than Players.

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    22. Pipa:

      (1) Mercenaries of Gor (#21, 1985), a Tarl Cabot POV, has plenty of John Norman’s signature rants about the natural gender roles, the Alar, a Gypsy like people, an extended sojourn in the Tunnels, a brothel. Avengers and plenty of slaves and women soon to be slaves. In contrast Avengers of Gor (#36, 2021) and Warriors of Gor (#37, 2022), the last two Yarl Cabot POV, had few signature rants, no new people, no new venues and only a few slaves.

      (2) In 1985, Betsy Wollheim, a feminist, took over the day-to-day operations of DAW Books from her ailing father, Donald A. Wollheim. Mercenaries, published that year, would certainly be “vile” in her eyes. John Carter of Mars, on whom Tarl Cabot was initially modeled, rescued damsels in distress. In Mercenaries, Tarl Cabot put damsels into distress: he enslaved Feiqua, left a free woman thief drugged and bound with her victim’s purse tied around her neck next to her victim, left the mannish free woman hostess of the brothel naked, bound and tied to a slave ring in a public alley and sold Lady Lydia into slavery.

      (3) While there were plenty of other women, free captives, “261” and “437” in Torcadino and Boabissia, a slave raised by the Alar from infancy as a free woman, in Mercenaries, the thin plot was Tarl gets papers in Torcadino to deliver to Gnieus Leilius, regent of Ar, and he delivers them to the regent in Ar. At the end of Mercenaries, he is led to a private meeting with the regent.

      (4) The next year, Renegades of Gor (#23) was published. As a bonus, Dancer of Gor (#22), a slave girl POV, was published eight months after Mercenaries. The slave girl POV books are Captive (#7, 1972), Slave Girl (#11, 1977), Kajira (#19, 1983), Dancer (#22, 1985), Witness (#26, 2001), Prize (#27, 2008), Conspirators (#31, 2012), Smugglers (#32, 2012), Plunder (#34, 2016), Quarry (#35, 2019), Treasure (#38, 2024). Increasing in frequency in the later books, they gave more opportunity to delve into the natural slave psychology of Earth women.

      (5) In fairness to Gorean free women, both Feiqua, the former Lady Charlotte of Samnium, and Lady Lydia of the Tabidian Towers of Ar begged Tarl to enslave them.

      (6) Note the publication dates after John Norman found E-Reads: Prize (#27, 2008), Kur (#28, 2009), Swordmen (#29, 2010), Mariners (#30, 2011), Conspirators (#31, 2012), Smugglers (#32, 2012), Rebels (#33, 2013), Plunder (#34, 2016), Quarry (#35, 2019), Avengers (#36, 2021), Warriors (#37, 2022), Treasure (#38, 2024). This suggests John Norman’s vigor failed after 2013. The publication of 4 books in the 5 years from 2019 - 2024 certainly suggests a collaborator.

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    23. Pipa, Vyeh. Re: collaborator. We know from the Chronicles of Gor website that Simon of Tabor worked extensively with John Norman in preparing the existing books for issuance as ereads, including a lot of cleaning up of details, harmonizing of details of Gorean culture, and in many cases addition of new material. He is likely to be either the or at least one of the collaborators and editors of the later, more recent books.

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    24. Pipa:

      (1) It took me a day and a half to start Dancer of Gor (#22, 1985), a slave girl POV, as I skimmed Renegades of Gor (#23, 1986) and Vagabonds of Gor (#24, 1987) to follow Tarl Cabot from Mercenaries (#21, 1985). The first 10% set on Earth and the following 20% leading up to Doreen’s first retail sale seemed to be mostly John Norman ranting about gender roles.

      (2) Dancer had nothing to do with Mercenaries, Renegades and Vagabonds. There are three Kurii, who fled from Corcyrus in Kajira (#19) and a character from the mines of Tharna in Outlaw (#2). In 1985, the year of Dancer’s publication, feminist Betsy Wollheim, previously the associate editor, took over day-to-day operations DAW Books from her ailing father Donald A. Wollheim.

      (3) Dancer seemed tailor-made to rile her up. The slaver Teibor railed against the “modern woman,” women who read books and thought. Doreen was whipped awake on Gor. Her virginity was raffled off in a paga tavern, where she was serially raped by fifteen men. Subsequently, she was gang raped by fifty men from the Black Chain of Ionicus, half of whom she lured into involuntary servitude. And Doreen loves her enslaver and her harsh bondage.

      (4) In contrast, the previous slave girl POV books all contributed to the overall saga: Captive (#7, 1972, Verna takes Talena to the Northern Forests), Slave Girl (#11, 1977, “Half-Ear Arrives”) and Kajira (#19, 1983, Kurii infiltrated Corcyrus).

      (5) In 1973, Judy-Lynn del Ray joined Ballantine Books. One of her first decisions was to terminate the bestselling Gor series. Subsequently, she secured the novelization rights for Star Wars. In 1988, Betsy Wollheim refused to publish Witness of Gor (#26, 2001). Subsequently, she published authors like Mercedes Lackey and C.J. Cherryh. DAW Books remained independent through 2022.

      (6) In contrast, in Treasure of Gor (#38, 2024), the final slave girl POV book, there is only one 22 page chapter, Chapter 2, of Agnes on Earth, she doesn’t fantasize about being a slave, her enslavement is covered by quick memories and she begs for sex from the very beginning of Chapter 1. Since Treasure is 707 pages, compared to Dancer’s 548 pages, it is unlikely someone merely edited a John Norman manuscript.

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  4. I genuinely love reading your stories so much, but I personally would actually rather have no pictures than AI pictures. IDK how big of an ask this is, but if there's a way you could also upload a version of the stories without the AI pictures somewhere, that would be greatly appreciated. Furthermore, if you have a Patreon or anywhere else where I could donate money to support you, I would love to do so. This is a place where my darkest, most submissive fantasies have been fulfilled for years and I love it here.

    Sincerely, a loyal fangirl

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  5. When can we expect the continuation of this story?

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  6. Any updates on continuation would be appreciated??

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  7. Seems like a question must be repeated again!!

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    1. I too love Emma's stories, but let's be respectful.

      She'll post again when she's ready.

      She's giving us wonderful long, free stories. She does not owe us anything.

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    2. Aalgus:

      (1) Emma hasn’t disappeared. Yesterday the spam filter intercepted my comment to Read-Along-A-Gor: Fighting Slave of Gor, chapter Two, posted 3 March 202. Today, that comment appeared.

      (2) Later (Monday 06/04/2026), Tracker will post on his website (StoriesByTracker DOT Blogspot DOT com) “A Mere Fleabite, A Time Changes Everything Story, Part 2 of 3” by Peony D Beckside (Part 1 as well as the two parts of “Time Changes Everything” are already posted; part 3 will be posted the following Monday.) You will need a Blogger account to access his website.

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    3. (1) … posted 3 March 2021. Today …

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    4. Just a quick note to reassure everyone - there will be new chapters fairly soon. I haven't done one of my frustrating disappearing acts for 9 months. :) But I have been horribly busy at work and was suffering from a heavy cold for a couple of weeks. :)

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    5. Great to hear Emma. Looking forward to your return. There is a bit of an Easter egg in the new chapter of Drysdale House, for those who might find it,

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    6. Thanks for the reassurance, Emma. Hope you've managed to kick that cold.
      --jonnieo

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    7. Emma:

      (1) I hoped your absence was explained by being busy at work since the fashion industry is busy in the spring. I’m sorry about the heavy cold. With lingering long Covid, it must take you longer to recover. I was consoled by seeing by comments reappear after being caught in the spam filter, i.e. the comment to Read-Along-A-Gor, Fighting Slave of Gor, chapter Two, posted 3 March 2021, and happily note the second part of my comment to Read-Along-A-Gor, Fighting Slave of Gor, chapter Three, posted 4 March 2021, reappeared today, six days after being caught by the spam filter.

      (2) Since I was able to read Explorers of Gor, I wonder if the lost city Xuchotl in the Gods of Gor Prologue had any relation to the abandoned city found by Shaba in Explorers, perhaps the same civilization?

      (3) While I look forward to new chapters of both Gods of Gor and What Remains of Rebecca Palmer, I’d rather you take care of yourself. And if you’re bored with Gods and Palmer, there is always First Girl of Gor (Part Two of Two), where you can write your sequel to the Nest Wars. 😊

      vyeh

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    8. (1) “… by seeing by comments reappear …” —> … seeing my comments …

      (3) “ … to the Nest Wars.” —> … Nest War.

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  8. Tracker. When will the new chapters of Drysdale house appear
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    1. Posted now. I hope you enjoy it

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    2. A bit of a taste, the beginning. (StoriesbytrackerDOTblogspotDOTcom
      Tales of Drysdale Hall Tale 12
      The moon was a ghostly galleon tossed upon cloudy seas

      It was 4AM, I was at the wheel of the Queen Conch as she plied the Pacific Ocean south from the mouth of Patroon Creek towards San Francisco. All the others were asleep; it had been a long day. Smith and the short swarthy sailor had met us there at dusk and brought us safely aboard. I had slept until just before three in the morning, when the silent sailor had wakened me to take a watch at the wheel. In the wheelhouse, he had pointed out the course and muttered that Smith would relieve me at seven.
      For an hour now I had guided the Queen Conch south as we returned to San Francisco from our expedition to Dragonwyck. Through the night I regarded I was accompanied by three moons; not the three moons of Gor. Three full moons illuminated the Queen Conch, the full moon shining in the sky, the moon’s silvery track across the water, and the moon reflected in the wheelhouse glass. Just me, and the three moons, and the ghost of Billy Jackson.
      We had stormed the castle; slain the monster; rescued the princess; and brought away some booty. Yet I could think only of the face of Billy Jackson, and the look in his eyes as he realized he was about to die. He was just a big overgrown kid from small two street town in Arizona who had taken a job to guard some millionaire’s house in the woods, and he never expected when he got up that it would be his last day on earth. I had not gone there to kill Billy Jackson; I had wanted to put an end to Vincent VanRijn. I needed to protect myself and my kajira, Juli against further attempts on our lives and the Fricks had given me the opportunity to do so. And now Billy Jackson was dead, and I would never forget the look in his eyes as he saw the blade of my tomahawk axe come down.
      We had stormed the castle; slain the monster; rescued the princess and brought away some booty; and the only thing I felt was sadness.

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  9. Good chapter. There are several loose threads
    What happened to Lena, the mushroom girl. Was she enslaved?
    What about Hannah Quigley. ? Was she enslaved ? DId Patrick return her to her sister. Barbara?
    NIcola Van Rijn. Did Patrick turn her over to the Fricks to be sent to Gor?

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    1. next chapter, which I am writing now, but is already plotted. The current chapter was already running long so I cut a section for Tale 013. There is a clue in the line, rescued the princess and captured some booty

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    2. Unknown, Tracker:

      (1) The comments to one of Emma’s Gods of Gor chapters is a very strange place to be discussing Tracker’s story, although this prevents spoiling Tale 013.

      (2) AuntiePArm suggested that Tale 012 was “[a]n excellent end to the story.” Obviously, there is more to Tales.

      (3) I don’t remember encountering Holgar Magnusson, Warrior of Treve before. There is a similarity to Karl Magnus, Ubar of London and Warrior of Treve, who appeared in both Emma’s Steel Worlds Inc. and in What Became of Rebecca Palmer, both in a flashback in Chapter Seven and in a grainy video in Chapter Ten.

      (4) In the naming convention of Ar, which follows Ancient Rome, the son of Karl Magnus would be Holgar Magnus. For Vikings, the son would be Holgar Karlson (see Leif Ericsson). I haven’t reread Witness of Gor (#26) — the book Betsy Wollheim rejected — so I am unsure of Treve’s antecedent culture, although Vikings would be a good fit.

      (5) Since Karl Magnus has been overthrown in the time of Tales, perhaps Holgar Magnusson is the son of Karl Magnus and is in America to undermine the Fricks, since Karl killed Willard Frick after Willard attempted to steal Emily.

      (6) Lena was enslaved by VanRijn. Anders had Lena. In Tales 09, Anders held Lena and said, “Hush now, kajira, hush now.” As to Hannah Quigley, Patrick reminded himself that he had promised Barbara, Hannah’s sister and a lawyer, and Hannah that he would bring Hannah home. As a lawyer, Patrick takes his promises seriously.

      (7) Of course, Patrick has just committed murder and felony murder (although he killed Vansittart in defense of Hannah, he gave the dagger to Anders who killed VanRijn, as Patrick and Anders planned and he killed Billy Jackson — self-defense isn’t operative when he had broken into the premises and a security guard was trying to apprehend him after Patrick had already used lethal force). It is terrible to see a lawyer who prided himself on following the law become a murderer.

      (8) As for Nicola VanRijn, Holgar gave her to Patrick as a captive. I think Patrick owes the Duchy three slaves. “Rescued the princess and captured some booty” could apply to Nicola as Princess since she was the niece of VanRijn or as booty since she was an enemy woman.

      vyeh

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    3. It would be better to take the discussion to the Tales Chapter 12, I think

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